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The Incentives Lab Podcast · Episode 1

Episode One — Why Incentives Beat Strategy

Aaron Bare · January 15, 2026
The short answer

Strategy loses to incentives because a strategy describes intent while an incentive describes payoff, and people follow payoff. When a plan and a compensation structure disagree, the compensation structure wins every quarter without a meeting.

In this episode

The opening conversation of The Incentives Lab Podcast: why every strategy deck loses to the incentive system underneath it, how perverse incentives quietly form inside good organizations, and what leaders can redesign this quarter.

Key takeaways

  • Culture is the residue of incentives — not posters, values, or offsites.
  • Most 'people problems' are payoff problems wearing a costume.
  • Measure the behavior you actually reward, not the one you announce.
  • Redesigning one metric can move an entire org faster than a reorg.

Show notes and references

Host

Aaron Bare

Aaron Bare is a strategist, Wall Street Journal-bestselling author, and the founder of The Incentives Lab. He writes and advises on incentive design inside organizations — why culture is the residue of what a company rewards, how KPIs quietly go perverse, and how AI systems inherit the incentives their designers set.

All work by Aaron Bare